well, thats it folks.. my identity on here has been rumbled and reported to the elders.
someone, somehow, has figured out that im a member of this site and - rather than speak to me - has promptly reported me to the elders.
i just feel sad for my daughter.
I beg your pardon but, I think you will find that, I, am pale.emperor.
Seriously though, I have no words of advice. I just know that you have a hell of a lot of support from the guys on here. Take it, revel in it and stick two fingers up.
Sending best wishes.
"we are saddened to hear about the death of prince rogers nelson, who was baptized as one of jehovah’s witnesses in 2003," the church said in a statement obtained by people.
the church said that prince "found fulfillment as a witness and in sharing his faith with others.
http://www.people.com/article/prince-dead-jehovah-witness-release-statement.
Do they know something we mere mortals don't? . . What happens if the results of Prince's death is from Drug abuse, as some of the speculation says (don't get me wrong, I hope not!!! I liked Prince.) . . . But will they retract the statement? Make excuses for him or themselves?
. . I think they may have been a little previous in releasing a statement, it may come back to bite them on the bum!
i'd like to brainstorm something with the rest of you.
this summer at the regional conventions we all know by now that a talk on shunning is going to be given.
we all know what that talk will likely point to.
Ooooh, it came out a bit big, sorry!
I just thought this could sum up the sentiment???
i'd like to brainstorm something with the rest of you.
this summer at the regional conventions we all know by now that a talk on shunning is going to be given.
we all know what that talk will likely point to.
in my former indoctrinated state, i used to yearn for a time when all the world would be jws.
but hang on minute, let's just think about what the world would be like if everyone was a jw,.
first of all, no higher education, so no medical advances, no scientific research, no modern day medicine, infectious disease rife, no doctors, no engineers, so no modern day comforts.
Ok, so my take. Sorry if I'm being dumb (it's because I'm worldly!) but, if all the world were JW's. . . There would be no need for JWs as there would be no 'badness' left in the world........
...... Either that or Armageddon really happened.........
we just finished watching outlander which is about a woman who goes back in time ~200 years from the end of wwii.
she ends up in the scottish highlands in the middle of the jacobite uprising.
it's a great show although the last episodes were a little graphic (they make game of thrones seem like sesame street).. but it got me thinking ... if you went back in time would you in fact be the 'god' you may imagine because of your knowledge of modern technology and the future?.
Ooh,ooh, not seen the movie, I don't want to spoil the books, I've read all 8 of them, now waiting for the ninth one! Brilliant. Very sadly ( for most other people) I've read the first one probably, about. . . .erm. . 10 times. . . (Shhhh!)
i think, much like Clare, we would be seen as someone to be wary of, a witch, a healer. But as she came from the 1940's today's technology would be a damn sight more frightening to 18c highlanders!!
As for our knowledge, I don't think we particularly have much more knowledge than we did then. Our basic knowledge comes from past generations, the vast majority of other things we know, come from our technology.
Ha! Just read this back, it makes no sense whatsoever! Sorry! I know what I mean.
it was the Jamie & Clare that did it!
saw similar title in a google search so thought i'd read more and now simply have to share my experience if anything to hear that i'm not insane and it is that simple.. met and fell madly in love with a witness, and her with me.
what began as love at first sight turned into a 6 year relatiomship which simply ended very bluntly.
there were many painful twists and turns along the way, first from her inability to leave her husband, then my mistake in finding someone else as i simply couldn't take the pain of her coming and going with such simplicity, but in the end she got a divorce and suffered many consequences within 'the truth', and i sorted my issues which were many and admittedly dug with my own hands and stupidity in trying to protect a young girl who had done no wrong in this long affair.. eventually we found ourself on what i believed to be the home straight.
I wish I could be as positive as you. I'm sorry your journey is at an end, I feel for you, I really do.
As far as my story goes, I am told I'm still very much loved and missed,(this doesn't help, it's wonderful and heartbreaking at the same time) but ours is an impossible situation that will/can never end they way we want. Walking away seems much too hard, but at least I know as you do, Jehovah comes first! (Sarcasm is now my only defence!)
I'm all fought out. Guess you are too. It's pointless.
"You never know how strong you are until strong is the only choice you have"
saw similar title in a google search so thought i'd read more and now simply have to share my experience if anything to hear that i'm not insane and it is that simple.. met and fell madly in love with a witness, and her with me.
what began as love at first sight turned into a 6 year relatiomship which simply ended very bluntly.
there were many painful twists and turns along the way, first from her inability to leave her husband, then my mistake in finding someone else as i simply couldn't take the pain of her coming and going with such simplicity, but in the end she got a divorce and suffered many consequences within 'the truth', and i sorted my issues which were many and admittedly dug with my own hands and stupidity in trying to protect a young girl who had done no wrong in this long affair.. eventually we found ourself on what i believed to be the home straight.
Hey Verecocha, first of all, I'm not supposed to be here anymore, said I'd quit, but your story made me have to reply. I am/was in a very similar situation to you, as you can guess from my name, I'm not a JW.
I'd love to say 'run for your life' 'you're better off out of it' etc, but I know where you are coming from and it ain't that easy! I'd love to say, 'hang in there' it'll get better, but I KNOW it doesn't.
While I don't condone having a relationship with a married person, we don't know all the facts. So, it's not mine to judge.
It makes no sense. And it hurts like Hell. The too-ing and fro-ing comes from the deep seated illogical guilt, fear and goodness knows what else! When the JW mask slips and you see the person underneath you feel you are gaining ground, then BOOM, the mask goes back on. We, are bad associations, we, in the eyes of JWs, will never be good enough. As much as they love and care for us, FEAR + GUILT = control. We will only get our hearts broken, time and again. They WILL be 'encouraged' to stop 'associating' with us. it doesn't matter what we do.
As far as I can work out, unless they Wake Up, there is not a cat in Hells chance of this ending well.
I'm sorry I can't be more help, I'm sorry I don't have any answers, I need them myself. If you ever find any, let me know!! Good luck my friend!
hey, my first post started with 'my story isn't complete' the final chapter has now been written.
including a very flamboyant 'the end' to boot!
i'm pretty sure there won't be a sequel, i don't think my heart could take it.
Hey, my first post started with 'my story isn't complete' The final chapter has now been written. Including a very flamboyant 'The End' to boot! I'm pretty sure there won't be a sequel, I don't think my heart could take it. So I want to thank everyone here for their wisdom, advice and humour. I have not posted much, at all, but have read lots, learned a lot, got to know some of you from reading your posts.
I think it's best if I take a step back for now. I may still pop in from time to time, if that's ok. I just need to heal for now.
I am proud to say, I am still, NOT a JW, Still never have been and still never will be.
yesterday i had to listen to the co from a spanish congregation on the phone.
he said the fds has been gradually moving away from the word "worldly" and teaching jws not to use the term anymore.
has anyone heard this in their congregation or heard the term "non-believers" used before?
Does this mean I have to change my name??? 'Miss Unbeliver' doesn't have the same ring to it!
